Alright… So.. Hey everyone… my name is Gunz… some of you know me, some don’t.. Been involved for years in the industry in many different factions.. label.. mgmt.. broadcasting, etc…
point is the following… and ONLY the following:
FPS should not have played Warped.
OKAY? I said it. He shouldn’t have done it or been allowed to.
But, my issue HERE isn’t with that; clearly many of you across the Internet have made that known on your own and okay, that’s fine.
MY ISSUE has to do with the following..
from a social-standpoint, there is seriously a major social-rebellion-realm going on nowadays throughout society.
Many times it’s positive; per example: the Confederate flag rebellion.. (yeah, uhhhh, that probably shouldn’t have been hung up to begin with. that should have been given and it’s a sin that it took so long and a horrible massacre to get attention to what was going on)
(BTW if anyone wants to get political – the DEMOCRAT Governor Fritz Hollings… allowed the Confederate flag to be raised above the state capitol… publican Governor has now outlawed it… but hey, politics aside..)
(and also… Hillary Clinton a few years ago said marriage should be between a man and woman… and this year changed it per the gay marriage rulings.. so yeh, welcome to politics. at least Bernie Sanders was consistent I guess? )
I think the big thing I have a problem with is the following;
People going after Kevin Lyman’s credibility, lifestyle, and history (including death threats to him? REALLY? death threats to Lyman? There’s a hell of a lot more ppl that deserve threats than f’n Kevin Lyman. and to respond and say ‘oh, that’s a minority of ppl…’ well, my response is to perhaps the minority of the following that are calling for:
A ban to Warped Tour or boycotting it.
Obviously FSP is a dirtbag, scumbag, assailant, whatever you want to say.
you will never have heard or will hear me have posted or expressed my support for him.
and it is each and every individual’s CLEAR RIGHT obviously to ask for a REFUND or NOT SHOW UP TO WARPED if they are so upset at it.
BUT… Me, GUNZ… is asking this to ponder as well:
I… AM ASKING YOU RIGHT NOW…FROM THE FAN… TO THE MANAGER… TO THE RECORD LABEL OWNERS… TO THE WEBSITE OWNERS… TO THE FOLLOWING…
ARE YOU WILLING TO BOYCOTT… ANY BAND THAT YOU SUPPORT… (REMEMBER, MANY OF YOU SUPPORT WARPED TOUR BANDS ON THE TOUR RIGHT NOW)
WHY AREN’T YOUR BANDS OR YOU, YOURSELF.. POSTING AND COMMENTING ON WEBSITES… CALLING FOR YOUR FRIENDS TO BOYCOTT WARPED OR NOT PLAY? WHY ARE SOME OF YOU… AND DO I REALLY NEED TO NAME NAMES? I’M SURE THE FANS CAN FIGURE IT OUT…
(BTW.. SCREEN CAPTURE ALL TWEETS AND POSTS THEY’VE POSTED ON BECAUSE WITHIN MINUTES OF THIS, I’M SURE MANY OF THE ‘VOICES’ OUT THERE WILL CHANGE THEIR OPINION AND TONE.. BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THEMSELVES”)
ARE YOU STILL WILLING TO SUPPORT THOSE BANDS? OR THEIR FUTURE TOURS. WHAT ABOUT THEIR PAST TOURS WHEN THESE ALLEGATIONS OR KNOWN FACTS WERE MADE KNOWN YEARS AGO?
OR THEIR BOOKING AGENTS – WHO MAY HAVE BOOKED or WILL BOOK
SIMILAR BANDS WITH ALLEGATIONS (OR ACCUSATIONS) FROM SUCH PEOPLE LIKE… FSP… JONNY CRAIG… FALLING IN REVERSE… hell, even Adam Levine had shit against him.
If you are willing to boycott ALL VENUES.. .BOOKING AGENTS.. PROMOTERS.. AND BANDS THAT HAVE HAD OR WILL HAVE THOSE BANDS ON THEIR TOURS… THEN; THIS POST ISN’T ABOUT YOU.
BUT HOWEVER. IF YOU MANAGE BANDS THAT ARE ON WARPED TOUR. AND MANAGE WEBSITES, OR LABELS, OR PROMOTION COMPANIES, OR AGENTS.. AND YOUR BANDS ARE STILL ON THIS TOUR THAT YOU THINK IS SO AWFUL.
THEN WHERE ARE YOU PULLING OFF YOUR BANDS FROM WARPED TOUR? FORFEITING THE CONTRACT ABOUT SAID WEEKS ON WARPED TOUR AND STAGES, AND GUARANTEES?
**this is when many people start making an excuse for why they are different or their bands are different, not involved etc… or say ‘Gunz doesn’t known what he’s talking about…’
but to YOU, THE FANS… i think i ask a good question, right? ) **
My point is… once you start going after one, it’s a dangerous, slippery and very HAZY slope..
GUNZ IS CALLING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW:
TO NOT HAVE YOUR FUTURE BANDS PLAY AT A VENUE THAT HAS HAD VARIOUS ASSAILANTS OF WHATEVER DEGREE OF ABUSE OR I GUESS NOW IT’S “CLAIMED ABUSE” (BECAUSE AFTERALL, IT’S FOR THE SCENE… AND IT HAPPENS ON MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS)
I CALL ON YOU, THE FANS. TO NOT SHOW UP AT ANY OF THOSE VENUES. OR BOYCOTT THOSE BOOKING AGENTS.
consistency is key. if we all want a change in the scene, wouldn’t that be the best way; according to that logic?
This is posted at 4:19am. and many of the “Voices” in the scene will probably quickly change their standpoint on this once they realize they are going down a very difficult path.
Once again, Me, GUNZ, SAYS:
FSP should not have been on Warped, even for one day. dude is not good. (though one would ask what about last summer or when these allegations were happening – what Tour, where they were, etc… who knew.. .and why aren’t those ppl being held accountable for? once again… some of you are calling for a verrrry slippery slope.)
I don’t care what you think about me. I have a successful show because of the loyal listeners and my straight-shooting that I do and real interviews.
but am I going to boycott Warped Tour or Kevin Lyman… who has brought so many great causes, organizations and well-intentioned people to notoriety and status – from PETA2 to anti-nicotine causes to anti-suicide causes to a MAINSTREAM and ATTENTIVE and more importantly – an ACCESSIBLE level; to the fan who has a broken down household, or parents that abuse them, no one at school that will listen to them… their escape is Warped Tour and Lyman has approved of legitimate organizations to HELP those people?
No, I am not going to boycott Warped.
and guess what. many of the people protesting that manage these bands on Warped Tour… where are they calling for their bands to walk off the Tour? Exactly.
in summarization before the tweets come:
– i disagreed with FSP on Warped..
– i said a discussion is needed.. which Kevin has offered publicly many a times to fans and legitimate hosts and website owners.. why they won’t take him up on it is beyond me but to each their own..
– and thirdly. a boycott of Warped? then keep it consistent. half my booking agent friends and venue owners won’t have jobs because “Hey… so and so had Jonny Craig or whomever play here. we believe in our statement… we will not play here”
I’m sure some fan out there can do the research and compare allegations, to when they were known, to when other bands played at those places.
and see all hell break loose.
and this is why people need to take things one example at a time.